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Posted: Fri Jan 9th, 2009 08:46 pm |
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Here is the first set of mini's I did. More exciting than the giger look I was going for. Can you tell I am a total beginner lol. I assembled all my guys which I wish I didn't do but wanted to play as well so lesson learned there. The smaller guys aren't so bad but the fex I had to snap the arms off to get to everything. It made the job easier but there are remnants of the break still noticeable where the arms attach to the body. Only if you really look for it though. One of the other fex's I was able to snap the arms off of as well, but the third wont budge and I don't want to break it so I will have to bite the bullet and take way more time trying to get everything. I am debating using green stuff to smooth out the areas where I snapped the arms off since there is rough edges from the break. On this fex it isn't all that noticeable like I said unless you are really looking for it. The carapace isn't anything fancy either as I am not very good with highlighting yet. The goal with this army I think is to learn do's and dont's that way when I build my SM army they will look far better  Anyway, any critique, advice, whatever is appreciated. Even if you tell me they suck (but if you go that route, some advice to help me get better would be nice) The bases came out good, I bought 3 tubs of GW product to get the look I wanted. The 24 bucks is worth it (gravel, green flock, and static grass).
Nevermind the trees, they are from my son's green/tan army figures sets. I want to get more of those as adding a little detail and flocking the bases will make for some good and cheap terrain.
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Posted: Fri Jan 9th, 2009 08:59 pm |
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looking good, keep it up
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Posted: Fri Jan 9th, 2009 10:37 pm |
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| There good, but I think they could use a little bit of shading, or a light black wash on the red to bring down out some details. Last edited on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 10:38 pm by Professor Chaos
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Posted: Sat Jan 10th, 2009 01:36 am |
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It looks really good for the first set.
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Posted: Sat Jan 10th, 2009 04:58 am |
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Lookin' good, Biggs!
Do the same thing with the reds that you're doing with the blues, if you want to highlight the details of the models and get more depth.
One thing I always try to keep in mind when I'm painting minis is that all of the information is already in the model, you just have to bring it out. You're already displaying an ability to deal with the large spaces with no texture (in the blues that you're feathering and highlighting) which is where a lot of people get stuck. So going back to bring out the modeled parts themselves should be a cinch.
Keep it up, I'm sure you'll be a good painter in no time.
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Lord Bran Redmaw
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Posted: Sat Jan 10th, 2009 06:28 am |
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a super easy way to shade the red is to just go pick up a pot of devlan mud wash. I used it to great effect of my bloodletters.
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Posted: Sat Jan 10th, 2009 01:15 pm |
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outstanding,a ghostly gray(really light drybrush)over the whole model does wonders also.
Keep it up!
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Posted: Sat Jan 10th, 2009 02:44 pm |
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Right on guys! I wanted to make the strokes on the carapace longer as I seen on some other fex's but it was obvious on the ones I had seen that it was a combination of drybrushing, light strokes, and who knows what else. A lot of these were seen on coolminisornot and I believe the ones that inspired me were golden demon entries (which would explain why they look so good). I am just happy these didn't turn out horrible and I am able to look at them with little to no regret. It is my understanding that GW doesn't make the inks anymore and replaced the line with washes. I think a wash over the models would of been nice but the store was out of all the washes so I was stuck with what I had. I will keep in mind the advice you guys have given. I varnished the models using krylon satin varnish and with the models that are already finished I can't really go back and do anything more to them, or can I? Either way, the second fex should go smoothly but the third I am a little worried about since I cant disassemble it and will have to resort to messy tactics to get into the hard to reach spaces. Not the end of the world, just more time consuming going back to touch up the areas I had gotten paint all over.
Little bit off topic, but with nids how do they deal with tanks or any vehicle types. The way I have been told is that the sniperfex's (venom cannon, barbed strangler) doesn't do so hot against vehicles anymore and since the fex's I am making are either dakka or snipers, what else do tyranids have to really stand up to say a land raider or anything that will really rain on my parade? My understanding of vehicle rules and all that are not very clear, I have to go back and read the rulebook a couple more times to really understand it but I would just hate to see this army get decimated by a tank or two.
Well thanks for the input!
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Posted: Sat Jan 10th, 2009 05:49 pm |
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Welcome to the all encompassing get shot the fuck up world that is tyranids.
Tank crushing items are pretty much all on the carnifexes and hive tyrants(but boy do they own tanks)Zoanthropes have the warp blast psychic power that works,and Biovores can throw up the bio-acid spore mines which will help also,but you will always be susceptable to tank heavy armies,sorry. (But just wait untill you have the fun against the eldar and tau skimmer tank armies,they freakin suck. )
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Posted: Sun Jan 11th, 2009 05:43 am |
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Wonderful, lol.
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Posted: Mon Jan 12th, 2009 12:24 am |
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Bi66z wrote:
what else do tyranids have to really stand up to say a land raider or anything that will really rain on my parade?
Landraiders rain on everyone's parade. Best advice: hire a lascannon.
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Posted: Mon Jan 12th, 2009 08:47 pm |
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Looks Kick Ass very nice for fisrt models painted!
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Posted: Tue Jan 13th, 2009 12:30 pm |
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Ok, after thinking on the matter. I decided to change the bases and add more detail to the carapace. I think they look much better now. I have not added gray highlights to the bases yet and I am debating if I should or not (of course it will look more realistic if I do) but here is the updated pictures of my two fexes.
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Posted: Wed Jan 14th, 2009 04:49 am |
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Are they black and red now? In the previous pic they looked blue and red. I like the black better I think.
The bases are much better. That bright green stuff was kinda distracting. If your nids were green it wouldn't be such a problem.
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Posted: Wed Jan 14th, 2009 02:34 pm |
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They were black and red in the first pic, the lighting is terrible (photography is not one of my strong points). I agree though, the bases look much better, though I still have to add dark gray/ light gray highlights to the rock but other than that, the carapace looks much better as well. The models still need a bit touching up, minor spots I forgot to get to like way under the carapace where the tail connects to the torso. Not that anyone can see it but I am just retarded like that. I played my first game last night, and a few people commented on the paint job so that was right on. Little touching up, some rock highlights and maybe a red baal wash over the model to bring out detail and they should be good to go!
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Posted: Wed Jan 14th, 2009 09:17 pm |
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| So... how did that 1st game go? Battle report!
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Posted: Thu Jan 15th, 2009 12:12 am |
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If you can use 3 color highlights on the bases it makes a big difference.
Look at the GW website under 40K terrain / hobby tips they go through the different base styles and it comes out very well.
Do this after you have all you nids painted though.
Looks Kick Ass although I think I like the blue hilights in the fist pictures vs the gray highlights on the carapice in the second set of pictures.
Last edited on Thu Jan 15th, 2009 12:14 am by HDEagle71
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Posted: Thu Jan 15th, 2009 04:28 am |
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Pen dull wrote: So... how did that 1st game go? Battle report!
First game went good actually. I think its safe to say I was on the winning side of things. We weren't able to start gaming til a little after 7pm and the shop was only open til 8 (oops) but the guy pretty much let us stay til about 8:30 to wrap things up.
He was playing a lost and the damned army (which I understand is not tournament legal anymore but for sake of fun, nobody cared). So we played a 1500 pt army which we both came out at 1500 pts even. He had a defiler, two squads of some kind of imperial gaurd armies armed with lascannon turrets and the infantry themselves were mainly armed with lascannons. He had two more squads of zombie lookin guys (like undead lookin things, basically meat shields in my opinion) a rhino with a sqaud of more imperial gaurdsmen with lascannons. These imperial gaurdsman squads each were led by a chaos space marine. There was a chaos champion, a imperial gaurd tank and I believe that was it.
I fielded this list here (1500 pts exactly)
HQ
Hive Tyrant (mini me lol pictures after hes painted )
-2x Twin Linked Devourers
-Adrenal Glands +WS (this was pointless I now see)
-Enhanced Senses +BS
-Extended Carapace +SV
-Toxin Sacs +1 S
Warriors x6
-Deathspitters (template blasting madness, geez)
-Scything Talons
-Adrenal Glands +WS
-Enhanced Senses +BS
-Extended Carapace +SV
-Toxin Sacs +1 S
Troop 1
Genestealers x8
-Feeder Tendrils
-Extended Carapace +SV
-Toxin Sacs +S
Troop 2
Genestealers x8
-Feeder Tendrils
-Extended Carapace +SV
-Toxin Sacs +S
Troop 3
Hormagaunt x14
-Adrenal Glands +I
-Adrenal Glands +WS
-Extended Carapace +SV
Troop 4
Termagaunts x14
-Fleshborer
-Without number
Heavy
Dakkafex
-2x Twin Linked Devourers (just nasty omg)
-Enhanced Senses +WS
-Reinforced Chitin +W
Sniperfex x2
-Venom Cannon
-Barbed Strangler
-Enhanced Senses +WS
-Reinforced Chitin +W
There you have it. The reason why there is so many biomorphs is because I had the points to spend. It actually really helped. The game went as follows....
Setup wise: From left to right on my side from my perspective. Both genestealer squads, hormagaunts, warriors, termagaunts, dakkatyrant, dakkafex, both sniperfex's
From left to right on his side from my perspective. Defiler, lascannon IG squad, lascannon IG squad, zombie squad, zombie squad, rhino, IG tank. Hope that gives a better picture of how things were set up.
He went first, using the defiler to fire at my termagaunts (only thing in range) and managed to wipe a couple off. He kept both turret units stationary and moved up the tanks (which were behind cover of woods) and the zombie squad (I'll call them that for now).
My turn. Moved up genestealers, hormagaunts and also tried to do the additional move but rolled poorly (1's) so much for the boost of movement, no matter. Moved the two sniperfex's around to get into plain view of his rhino and IG tank. Moved the dakkafex and dakkatyrant up as well as all the warriors. Shooting phase! Sniperfex destroys the rhino and forces the unit inside to bail out (I thought it wasn't that easy to destroy vehicles with nids though? something about glancing hits or whatever? I dont know anyway) That was all I was able to do.
His turn. He fires the defiler again, this time at my genestealers who are coming up the flank of the defiler. Thanks to the added SV I gave them I think I only lost one. He uses the lascannon crews that were stationary and fires at my gaunts taking out a few of each. IG tank also brings down a few more gaunts. He moves up the unit bailed out of the tank towards my sniperfex's.
My turn. I move everything up again, this time I am in range with everything but the termagaunts. The warriors fire first. Now I did not realize at two attacks per warrior you get two template attacks each. This had devestating results. Half of my shots were on target just cutting through those zombie squads moving forward. The ones that were off target were usually only off by an inch or two still always hitting five or six guys. My rolls were great as well, causing more wounds than not. Then the Dakkatyrant fires. 12 shots, re-roll missed hits was effective (but why are people online saying for dakkatyrants'fexes that they reroll missed hits AND wounds???) we did not go by this and I just re-rolled missed hits but it was still effective. Taking out more of the zombie guys. The dakkafex fires his 8 shots but due to poor wound rolls, he did nothing. My sniperfex's then fired at the unit that came out of the rhino and thanks to barbed strangler ate up almost the entire squad in one turn (I think he had the chaos guy and one IG left, failed the leadership test and had to fall back).
His turn. He moves the zombie guys up even more, at this point they are real close to my termagaunts. He moves up the guys that bailed out of the rhino this time I believe he went around the other side of the tank flipped over avoiding los with my sniperfex's. He shot again with his stationary units with lascannons taking out a couple more hormagaunts and the defiler takes out a couple more genestealers. (He had a giant lascannon and missile turrets on the thing) His IG tank takes out 3 warriors (ouch) and then moves his zombie guys into close combat with my termagaunts. Sad to say, all the termagaunts died.
My turn. Genestealers go on the charge against the defiler. Now I am not sure what was going on here, wasn't aware I could even do this or that there was any hope of victory but out of all the genestealers I had 33 atks but because of their rending ability??? I had to roll sixes and then I would reroll those sixes, add that to the strength plus D3??? Well I rolled 5 sixes and then rerolled giving me three sixes and two like ones and twos or something. Added on D3 and I took out two weapoons and the third destroyed the vehicle (again not sure if this was done right but I wasn't complaining). My hormagaunts go on the charge against one of the stationary units with lascannons. All but two died including the turret base itself. The warriors fire again, taking out pretty much all of the zombie guys, there were a couple left over. Sniperfex's move to the left to get into better view of something (they were being blocked by the damn woods) and the dakkafex and dakkatyrant took out a good chunk of the other stationary unit of lascannon soldiers and the chaos champion!
At this point it was 8:30 and we called it a night. While I cannot say it was a victory for either party I was happy with my performance (again assuming all was played correctly, since he had not played in six months and was a little shaky on things but the GW guy helped with a bunch of rulings as well.) What is it about tyranids and vehicles though? Something about they were nerfed and not as good about it anymore, something to do with only being able to do glancing hits, or other way around. I dont know. The main point was that I had a ton of fun. Everyone loved the mini me tyrant conversion too lol. While I like the nids and all, I feel that once they are finished and painted its Choas space marines for the win! This was the original army I wanted to play and the only reason I didn't go that route first was due to finances. Nids had the cheapest box set and I think they are cool so I went with it. Thanks to tax returns (and a real nice financial aid return check) I am gonna get the chaos renegade strike force box set! I know there are some chaos players in here so you'll be hearing from me on advice and what not but thats after I get all that rolling. In the meantime I have to finish painting. Hope this was enough but not too much info.
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Posted: Thu Jan 15th, 2009 01:05 pm |
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| Outstanding sir,just don't get too caught up in shooting with the Nids.You were fighting IG and they don't have very good saves and you also weren't facing bolter fire(which pretty much ignores all armor saves on you small stuff)so you could actually get a save from the guard flashlites.However don't take me seriously,good game man!
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Posted: Fri Jan 16th, 2009 06:19 pm |
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I hear ya, I did some mock games using the black reach marines and proxy squads of orks as marines to do some games and the nids got their asses kicked lol! Well, they are a fun game army. I am getting the Chaos Renegade strike force (at an awesome price I might add) so I will focus most of my resources there! I played a few proxy games (using plastic army guys rofl and plastic army tanks to simulate a chaos force and it has been going extremely well. Lash of submission is something good, glad someone told me about it.
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