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Stormcaller56
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 02:01 am |
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I am starting a 'nid conversion project...i am making a biotitan out of 4 boxed sets of carnifexes (saw pictures on another site...awesome)! i need input for the biocannons. i was going to use the strangler and venom cannon bits to make an extended barrel...
question...strangler first or VC first?
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Brother Tiberius
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 12:17 pm |
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| If I recall correctly, the strangler has a blast template of some size. That'd be my choice with 5th edition around the corner. There are other, more effective anti-tank options than the venom cannon.
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Stormcaller56
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 01:14 pm |
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| thanks...actually, from a modeling perspective, i am combining a BS and VC barrel to make a bio-cannon for the titan. which to you think should go first?
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HDEagle71
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 05:23 pm |
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I would put the stats up for these weapons then we can give you an opinion.
As I don;t know what they do so I don't want to tell you the wrong thing for a titan conversion.
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Stormcaller56
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 08:38 pm |
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Stats for Bio-Cannon (Titan has 2)...
Bio-Cannon 48" S10 AP2 Assault 8
I was also thinking of making each arm double-barrelled due to the high firing rate.
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Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 01:48 pm |
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I think those are actually the stats for an atom bomb, not a bio cannon.
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Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 01:59 pm |
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No, but seriously- from the standpoint of a model maker, I don't think either the strangler base or the venom cannon base is going to represent that gun sufficiently.
Look at it this way- that's an extra-long barreled gattling demolisher cannon.
Or let's put it another way- that's a squad of terminators removed from the board every turn. Terminators that your opponent stayed up all night hand painting.
If you're going to put this weapon on the board, I'd suggest you go all out in modelling it. Forget about existing bitz, there's nothing like this in the rest of the game (like many war machines, I know) so you're going to have to dig deeper.
I'd start at the hardware store. Or the nursery, since it's a bio cannon.
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Brother Tiberius
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Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 02:36 pm |
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Major_Slovak wrote:
I'd start at the hardware store. Or the nursery, since it's a bio cannon.
Use something gnarled, like a piece of ginger root, or a small bonzai tree trunk.
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Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 03:11 pm |
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I agree with Slovak. Weapons of this magnitude should look suitably impressive. (iff I'm going to get killed by an 8 shot str10 weapon, I don't want it to look a little meaner than a strangler cannon. I think any bit in the GW is going to have a hard time representing this weapon.
so I'm right in thinking this titan is capble of firing 16 str 10 ap2 shots per turn? that might not be out of line depending on what other capabilities (if any) the titan has, the over all size and point cost of the model, statline of the model, and how cool it looks.
It's hard to tell just how potent 16 str 10 weapons are in apocolypse. It might not even be quite as bad as it first appears....it be worse though worse though. I'm guessing you're looking at reaver titan pricing if not higher.
Sounds cool!
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Wolf Man
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Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 03:38 pm |
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If you are building this off of info gained at another site, then you should share that info or pics with us.
I don't know if anyone here can give you accurate feedback without truly knowing just what you are planning on making.
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Stormcaller56
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Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 08:16 pm |
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Thanks for the feedback...
There are actual photos of two of the 'nids that carry this weapon in the Apoc Book, Tyranid Section. The wep is carried by a Heriophant and a Barbed Heriodule. Both are gargant creatures (10W and 6W, respectively). And yes, the Heriophant gets 16 X S10 shots a turn! Insane! In the photos, the cannons actually look like slightly oversized venom cannons. Major, i like your idea of using plant material...will just have look around to find somethings suitable. Will actually look better than the Forge World stuff...this is a conversion after all! I will post pics as i get close to finish...
In regards to your comment, Steve, check the Apoc book for an idea of what i am using as a prototype.
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Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 05:19 am |
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It is possible that the gun could be an organism onto itself. I could agree that 16 str10 shots could come from a gun that was converted out of several Hive Tyrant models, with their legs cut off and a gun sticking out of the mouth...
Coolie enough, you might pick up a new hobby modelling this guy: Whittling.
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Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 01:19 pm |
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Pen dull wrote: It is possible that the gun could be an organism onto itself. I could agree that 16 str10 shots could come from a gun that was converted out of several Hive Tyrant models, with their legs cut off and a gun sticking out of the mouth...
Coolie enough, you might pick up a new hobby modelling this guy: Whittling.
yes, after understanding where the model was coming from and seeing Dan's WIP last night at Dale's, I have decided to recant most of my concerns noted in this email. The heirophant's guns aren't all that huge. I think if you get that "double arm" effect the FW model has, bore out a stand Nid weapon so the nozzle/barrels are a touch bigger(and possible go with the coffee bean idea you were telling me about, Dan), You could easily get away with your original concept. The suggestions here could be cool to but unnecesary IMO.
Dan's WIP really looks to be a fantastic conversion when done. I can't wait to see it complete!!
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ethmongul
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Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 02:06 pm |
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this is truely going to be one of the best scratch built titans yet. if dan can pull it off, it will easily be a historic model and soooooo easy to paint.
( I hope those old warior models will help ya dan, good luck. Really nice modeling)
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Posted: Sat Jun 14th, 2008 06:07 pm |
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Why is this in "Off Topic?"
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Stormcaller56
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Posted: Sat Jun 14th, 2008 07:27 pm |
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because i forgot to put it in the 'Nid section...
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Brother Tiberius
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Posted: Sun Jun 15th, 2008 01:53 am |
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| Then I'll move it.
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Stormcaller56
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Posted: Sun Jun 15th, 2008 03:12 am |
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| s'ok by me...
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 06:32 am |
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... aaaaand dead.
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Wolf Man
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 12:52 pm |
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Putting up some pictures of the model in progress would bring this thread back to life. 
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