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Posted: Tue Jun 16th, 2009 09:39 pm |
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Recently I got to thinking about my stagnant army of Orks. I bought the new codex, and succumbed to the hype, and purchased a bunch of Ork stuff that now sits unpainted and partially assembled in a corner of a room i don't use.
Thinking back several years... man, I used to have a bunch of Ork stuff! I had an ork Dreadnought, boyz, grots, a buggy... all of which was taken from me by my dumb slut of a girlfriend at the time who had cheated on me and had to move the fuck out pronto.
But my point is... I had a Squig Catapault (or i think that's what it was called) from 2nd edition (?). And hey, remember the Squig Catapault??? 
Then i got to thinking about B'Jorn the Fellhanded and N'Jal Stormcaller. Both very important characters from the Space Wolves during 2nd and parts of 3rd edition - who were later just dropped from the game. Remember B'jorn and N'jal?
And what about weapons? The conversion beamer and Shock Attack Gun were both removed from the game, and both eventually came back.
So... my question to you people is... are there any other units and/or weapons that you remember fondly from the days of yore that GW brushed under the rug one day?
One stipulation I have is that i don't wanna hear about how you coulda - used ta - be able ta - deck out yer chaos lord in weapons x, y, and z and use rule 'N' with it to be totally awesome and now that option is gone and wah wah wah... 
I'm just interesting in remembering the old units and weapons that we don't see anymore.
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Posted: Tue Jun 16th, 2009 11:20 pm |
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Graviton Gun and the webber.
Grenades that killed things, removed plants or actually worked in some noticeable manner.
Powerfields for imperial vehicles.
Squats.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 01:40 am |
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20 man squad of thousand sons with 2 wounds each at 40 wounds total, shooting boltguns from 24" away, and a kick ass sorcer lord with over 200 pts of wargear
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 01:47 am |
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Speaking of which. . .
at the last Bizarre Bazaar (like two weeks ago) I went up yo the GW store in Philly hoping to score a Chimera--
and ended up buying 100 Squats for a hundred bucks. I shit you not, some old second edition guy that smelled like a chilidog said "Hey man, you have to have these" and opened up a box with 100 squats in it. He also threw in a big bag of ooold metal snotlings. There was no way to turn him down.
The squats are mobilizing. They're coming back, and they're pissed.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 11:49 am |
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What was that thing that the orks had...
the Hop Splat Gun? It fired a string of cannon balls connected by chain I think.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 12:58 pm |
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Weren't there also Hand Flamers? Which spewed forth a tiny template that was like half the size of the regular flamer template?
I think assault marines could carry them.
Did the IG ever have jump pack troops? If I squeeze my brain real hard... I think I remember pictures of jump packk troops for the Guard. 
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 01:23 pm |
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Squat trains were what I remember with horror, and there copters (SHEEEESH). Also termite underground vehicles. There is also nightmares about overwatch, the psychic phase, and freakin vortex grenades that make me wake up screaming sometimes.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 01:24 pm |
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In first edition, Guard had jump troops (with twin las-pistols), not to mention beastmen packs, penal legion troops, commissar training squads, and one of my favorites, the human bomb
Many a high school basement game was won by a brave soul with a satchel charge on his back.
Good Times......
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 01:41 pm |
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Ah, the Penal Legions. I still have a half-painted squad of Catachans in orange-jump-suits and white t-shirts that were going to be my Penal Legion troopers.
Then GW turned them into that Hogan's Heroes Squad complete with their own miniatures and names like Rokkit Girl, and Toothpick, and Lame Brain, or whatever.
Speaking of which... what was the name of THAT unit???
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 01:49 pm |
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Wolf Man wrote: Ah, the Penal Legions. I still have a half-painted squad of Catachans in orange-jump-suits and white t-shirts that were going to be my Penal Legion troopers.
Then GW turned them into that Hogan's Heroes Squad complete with their own miniatures and names like Rokkit Girl, and Toothpick, and Lame Brain, or whatever.
Speaking of which... what was the name of THAT unit???
Col. Schaefer's Last Chancers...
Jeppy was a big fan of that unit. They were kind of fun.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 07:15 pm |
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I remember the hand flamer template. A little tear-drop smaller than the regular blast.
There was also this barrage template, that you had to cut out and put little diddles through so you could rotate it in a clock-like fashion to find out where the next whirlwind shot hit.
I'm so old, I remember Boogie Boards. Flying skateboards. Now that is sci-fi, and something that the Back to the Future writers most likely ripped off.
Are those penal guys you're talking about the same as "Human Bombs" from the Rogue Trader rulebook? Something about strapping a bomb onto a dude's back and letting him run.
And I remember when you could design your own vehicles to a point of lunacy. I had an ork tank converted from a "Hiss" tank from G.I. Joe. It had twin D-Cannons on them.
If it hit a vehicle, the vehicle was destroyed. Brutal.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 07:16 pm |
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ethmongul wrote:
... overwatch...
I don't know. You tell me! How can a lascannon jam?"
Well, show me a lascannon and I'll demonstrate!
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 05:01 pm |
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I thought of another one that I used to really enjoy: The Sensei.
They were sort of a highlander type character class spawned from the loins of the emperor himself. They had random stats and a small warband, but were incredibly powerful.
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 05:07 pm |
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crterry wrote: I thought of another one that I used to really enjoy: The Sensei.
They were sort of a highlander type character class spawned from the loins of the emperor himself. They had random stats and a small warband, but were incredibly powerful.
Cool! Never heard of them. I do seem to remember some fluff about a certain "Priory of Scion" type of cult that hunted down people whom they thought might be linked to the emperor genitically or something though... hmmm... i forget.
Weren't there also Robots? I remember epic had them, but i thought Rogue Trader had programmable robets as well.
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Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 09:20 pm |
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Robots. yes. They were like dreadnaughts, except their actions were controlled on a flow chart.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 03:29 am |
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Bubble chucka mekboy speedsta from epic. Its wasn't that good of a weapon, but a silly concept. Orks chuckin bubbles. Hee hee
I guess the mekboys had a speedsta liftadroppa which was pretty cool
or Spleenrippa.
Lungbursta, bowelburna, bonecruncha
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 01:03 pm |
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Dacio wrote: or Spleenrippa.
Lungbursta, bowelburna, bonecruncha
Hey yeah... didn't Armorcast (or whoever) make a Goff Tank for 40k back in the day? Was it the Lungbursta?
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 05:53 pm |
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Epicast i think. I think I have da Lungbursta. big wheels big gun
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Posted: Wed Dec 9th, 2009 10:36 pm |
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Some of the stuff below made the game have all sorts of flavor, other things unbalanced it to the point where it couldn't be enjoyable for both players.
The specific old Dreadnought classes; furiabundus, Dreado, Contemptor, and Furiso. The robots; crusader, colossus, Cataphract, and Conquer. Off table support. Techmarines that allowed you to take a certain number of tanks, medics that you could detach to a normal squad, the space marine officers. Hallucigen grenades, plasma missles and grenades that left a template where you fired it, and you had to roll for every turn to see what the plasma ball did. Temproal Distortion (glad that one is gone). Psi points. Mad boyz. The Vampire Spirt Walker. A 2" blast from a multimelta. Rad grenades. Phase field generators. Power sheilds for assault marines. Displacer, refractor, and conversion fields. WHen a vortex grenage would split in two or expand and all the players would freak, but the spectators would smile with glee, because things just got interesting. Web solvent. Chaos war bands. The Blood SLaughter of Khore (Khorne's wheel chaiR). Lead models being changed to more expensive pewter because Bill Clinton thought he had to protect some retard who might eat a lead based fig. Chaos terminators w/out tusks. Old HtoH rules. The old plastic RT1ob box of 30 plastic marines. 3 rhinos to a box. 2 land raider to a box. Wierd boyz and minderz. Datafax. People buying a vortex grenade and trying to use it as a vortex missle, and getting pissed when you showed them the rule saying it only came in hand thrown grenage form. The flamer using a 2" blast. Starting things on fire with a flamer. Using War Hammer Siege in 40k. Deamon weapons that had a deamon bound inside and released that deamon when its bearer was killed. Blood Thirsters with Blood Thirster bound deamon weapons.
A totally open ended story to the game where the history and back ground was meant to be disjointed and unknown.
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