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Posted: Fri Jun 12th, 2009 06:36 pm |
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The chapter master gets a barrage orbital bombardment. Special rule for him.
It has unlimited range, and he cannot move before declaring it.
It is barrage, so that means "Guess" to those of you oldiemoldies.
It is "otherwise treated as a shooting attack" apart from the 2d6-always-scatters rule.
Does the chapter master need a firing port if he's huddled in a vehicle and wants to fire his Orbital Bombardment? Say... if my Chappy Master is embarked on a Razorback, can I still fire the thing if the Razorback didn't move?
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Posted: Fri Jun 12th, 2009 06:46 pm |
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If he can pop out the top and see what he wants or does he even need line of site to the target?
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Posted: Fri Jun 12th, 2009 09:19 pm |
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I believe he needs line of sight to the target, so you'd need a firing port- which razorbacks don't have. I'll re-read it and see what I can come up with
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Posted: Fri Jun 12th, 2009 10:33 pm |
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ok. changed my mind. he does NOT need line of sight to shoot the gun. however, the rules for fire points say that one model may fire or use psychic powers from each fire point, unless stated otherwise. this makes me think that you still need a fire point in order to shoot out at all, regardless if it needs line of sight. so you can hunker down in your rhino, but not the razorback, as it has no firing points.
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Posted: Sat Jun 13th, 2009 06:52 pm |
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twaimn wrote: ... you'd need a firing port- which razorbacks don't have...
Right. I was trying to make it simple, not complicating it with "yadda yadda rhino yadda."
And I own a Razorback. heh.
Here's a counter-thought to that argument, and I wonder if it holds any water at all (probably doesn't). The Chapter Master is embarked on the Razorback. He tries to fire his bolter at a target. However, since he has no firing points, he has no line of sight.
However, he might be able to fire an orbital strike, since he requires no line of sight to see. Similarly, I believe that Eldar psykers in the past have been able to cast powers from their vehicles without fire points.
But I'm not sure about this.
Is it the lack-of-line-of-sight or the lack-of-firing-points that prevents a model from firing from a closed-topped-non-firing-point vehicle? Is it a chicken-or-the-egg argument?
Or is it case closed by the vehicle rules that discuss firing points?
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Posted: Sat Jun 13th, 2009 08:05 pm |
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i just read the firing point thing and while it is ill equipped to deal with the barrage nature of the shot I still think it needs a firing point.
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 03:58 pm |
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Think about it. . . would a Chapter Master really hide from anything?
Whatever game mechanic shenanigans might be called into the question about this tactic, in my opinion, would be completely out-weighed by the implausibility of a Astartes Chapter Master huddled in the windowless back of the smallest transport in the game. In the midst of a battle.
Hilarious. I guess I would buy it if you modeled him appropriately, like some curled up little sniv doing lines off a glass coffee table but wearing power armor, or maybe like an enormously fat guy flying coach but sitting in the middle seat with his laptop and a bag of popcorn.
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Posted: Mon Jun 15th, 2009 02:48 pm |
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Major_Slovak wrote: Think about it. . . would a Chapter Master really hide from anything?
Whatever game mechanic shenanigans might be called into the question about this tactic, in my opinion, would be completely out-weighed by the implausibility of a Astartes Chapter Master huddled in the windowless back of the smallest transport in the game. In the midst of a battle.
Hilarious. I guess I would buy it if you modeled him appropriately, like some curled up little sniv doing lines off a glass coffee table but wearing power armor, or maybe like an enormously fat guy flying coach but sitting in the middle seat with his laptop and a bag of popcorn.
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Posted: Mon Jun 15th, 2009 05:25 pm |
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ethmongul wrote: Major_Slovak wrote: Think about it. . . would a Chapter Master really hide from anything?
Whatever game mechanic shenanigans might be called into the question about this tactic, in my opinion, would be completely out-weighed by the implausibility of a Astartes Chapter Master huddled in the windowless back of the smallest transport in the game. In the midst of a battle.
Hilarious. I guess I would buy it if you modeled him appropriately, like some curled up little sniv doing lines off a glass coffee table but wearing power armor, or maybe like an enormously fat guy flying coach but sitting in the middle seat with his laptop and a bag of popcorn.
Don't forget about pressing the little red button.
I guess I imagine it differently. He's not hiding, per se, but using the comms systems on board the Razorback to call down the strike. "On my mark" he'd say, then dramatically remove the little diddle he's wearing on his ear (obviously advanced bluetooth tech), and then sneer at his honor guard. "Let's go try and act like we're overpriced," he'd say, and then step out of the razorback and turn his chin into the wind.
As, well, I gotta take issue with this whole idea of "hiding." Sitting in a LandRaider held in strategic reserve is hiding. Embarked on a glorified rhino is hardly hiding!
And my Chapter Master is not fat and doesn't ride coach. And whatever his past was, well, we should all move on with that. He's really made forward progress in that whole "cocaine chapter" of his life, has moved on, and often attends the battlefield with little or no cocaine influence.
Thanks.
p.s. your sanctioned psyker is a drunk.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 12:58 am |
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Pen dull wrote:
p.s. your sanctioned psyker is a drunk.
Oh shit, you're right. That's why the guy babbles and froths and pees in my army transport case.
Actually in the new codex it's a Psyker Battle Squad, so it's a whole pack of drunks. Like a bowling team.
And they have a Overseer, who is like a designated driver who shoots you with a laspistol when you blow chips or get out of hand.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 10:47 am |
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Major_Slovak wrote:
... so it's a whole pack of drunks. Like a bowling team.
I'd debate that, if I hadn't been a member of a bowling team.
And they have a Overseer, who is like a designated driver who shoots you with a laspistol when you blow chips or get out of hand.
I just imagine a guy with a laspistol in one hand and a bottle of "Demon Hunter 150 Proof Sour Mash," pointing the laspistol at a psyker's head:
"I said drink, damn you, drink!!!"
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 12:50 pm |
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Pen dull wrote:
I just imagine a guy with a laspistol in one hand and a bottle of "Demon Hunter 150 Proof Sour Mash," pointing the laspistol at a psyker's head:
"I said drink, damn you, drink!!!"
That sounds like my bowling team...
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 06:09 pm |
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Brother Tiberius wrote:
That sounds like my bowling team...
You have a bowling team? What's your usual lanes?
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Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 09:22 pm |
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Pen dull wrote: Brother Tiberius wrote:
That sounds like my bowling team...
You have a bowling team? What's your usual lanes?
I was drafted. We bowl at Classic Lanes in 'stallis From January to April.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 01:20 pm |
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| I dreamed about Bowling last night. That's a little bit Lebowski, kinda weird. I was working, but everyone was bowling in the basement. I had to cover, so they put me on "skip" so I could run down there when it wasn't busy and catch up.
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